Technology Turns Against the Techies

The Center City Philadelphia Macintosh Users Group

Published: Oct 1, 2008

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Matt Torbin is a computer nerd on a mission. The full-time Web developer runs a "user group" for techies. And he's trying to keep it going in the face of an unlikely obstacle: technology.

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Torbin started the Center City Philadelphia Macintosh Users Group (CCPMUG) in 2006. "The group was an experiment," he says. "There are so many people in Center City who have Macs who would probably love to find that right medium to ask questions."

But despite this multitude of Mac users, CCPMUG has had trouble generating interest. Advances in computer products and the efficiency of the Internet at answering questions have reduced the usefulness of the format. "User groups are suffering across the country," Torbin says. "Instead of coming to a user group on Friday, it's just easier for people to Google their questions."

Still, Torbin believes there's room for groups like his. "Not everything online is trustworthy, or even correct. Many times the answers are simply false in every way. This is one of the main benefits of the user group: The individuals answering questions are professionals who have experience and credibility."

And so, about once a month, at Springboard Media on Walnut Street, Torbin hosts a CCPMUG meeting (usually about eight to 10 people show up, but his e-mail list has about 60 names on it). His plan is to revitalize the form by making it a social event for "Mac geeks."

"We're trying to make [coming to user group meetings] more fun. For example, a Web design seminar that we did was one of our best ... the most laymen of laymen could walk away with some knowledge."

Like many users groups, CCPMUG is a nonprofit that relies on a modest $3 monthly membership fee — and support from Springboard Media, which lets Torbin use its space after-hours — to keep itself afloat. But Torbin believes it can grow, and attract more "geeks," if it becomes sufficiently social.

"The user group is intended to be a fun and enjoyable experience," he says. "We believe strongly that the user group methodology is positive, and can be revived, but it will require involvement from the community."

Comments

Hi Matt,

I think you're onto something very useful when you emphasize "social event for MacGeeks."

One of the most popular pieces at many Macintosh Users Groups I attend is the Q&A or SIGs (Special Interest Groups). Folks join to have their most personal burning computer question or problem to the meetings for the experts to solve or answer.

Over the years, folks form life long friendships that keep them coming back.

Keep up the good work and fix your website. ;)

Maria
by Maria O. Arguello on October 2nd 2008 12:31 PM

Hi Matt,

I very much enjoy the social aspects of our CCPMUG meetings, and there is nothing like talking about Macs in person.

Keep up the good work.
Thanks,

Saul
by Saul Broudy on October 2nd 2008 1:10 PM

Yes, fix your website. Not sure what Saul's talking about regarding "there is nothing like talking about Macs in person". I mean, a Mac is not a son or daughter, or even a pet. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
by Al Bartoletti on October 2nd 2008 9:54 PM

So you started your group in 06. Did you know of - or do you dislike for some reason - the macbus.org group that's been around in philly for decades? The reporter sure seems oblivious of macbus. Maybe your sparse attendance has something to do with witless duplication.
by coe heston on October 4th 2008 2:40 AM

Coe -

I'm sorry you didn't take the time to fully read and comprehend the article or to learn more about the Center City Philadelphia Macintosh Users Group. If you had, you might find that we are a very different organization then you think.

I did, in fact, mention both the Main Line Macintosh Users Group (http://www.mlmug.org) and the MACBUS (http://www.macbus.org) as other long-standing user groups in the city, both of which I hold in high regard. I cannot speak on behalf of Ms. Manohar as to why she didn't mention those; you'll have to take that question to her directly.

What I can do is invite you and anyone else from MACBUS who would like to join us as my personal guest. I would definitely value your expertise and opinions. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me directly.
by Matt Torbin on October 4th 2008 12:05 PM

First off, my comment was a private joke for Matt, not a criticism in any way. I hope those of you who actually have a sense of humor will appreciate it.

Second, this applies to coe heston: I lived in Philadelphia for 4 years, and have friends and relatives, being mac users, who have resided in Philadelphia and the surrounding area for many decades. NONE of them have heard of macbus, or whatever that group is, so to be as trite as you were in your commentary is truly saddening. Matt had a good idea and ran with it...judging by your outburst, it sounds like your group is, perhaps, lacking in membership. Jealousy does show quite easily.
by Al Bartoletti on October 4th 2008 1:56 PM

Right, the CCPMUG web site says quite a lot about the group and its expertise.

At least the person who started the group is aware of the other group in the city. No word on why it was deemed necessary to start another, a point raised in my first post.
by coe heston on October 7th 2008 1:36 AM



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