The Fishtown Effect

Can you be racist and vote Obama?

Published: Oct 29, 2008

A month ago, Ben Smith, a writer for political blog and newspaper The Politico, posted a two-sentence blurb about Philly in his online column. Smith wrote:

An Obama supporter, who canvassed for the candidate in the working-class, white Philadelphia neighborhood of Fishtown recently, sends over an account that, in various forms, I've heard a lot in recent weeks.
Illustration by Don Haring jr.

"What's crazy is this," he writes. "I was blown away by the outright racism, but these folks are f***ing undecided. They would call him a n----r and mention how they don't know what to do because of the economy."

Within a few days, that remark had spread across the Internet faster than a terrorist fist jab. Since primary season, race has been a central theme of this election. Reporters have probed white blue-collar and working-class Americans (and especially dyed-in-the-wool Democrats) endlessly on their feelings toward Barack Obama. But for all the polls and diner/bar interviews, relatively few whites have acknowledged race as a factor in their decision. Instead, those with concerns have cited Obama's "inexperience," saying that they don't "trust" him, or that they don't "know" him.

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Those vague explanations, skeptics theorize, are covers for what boils down to simple racial prejudice. And so the less race comes up as an explicit factor, the more intimidating it seems. It's the scary ghost of November Yet to Come.

Obama supporters have in particular worried about the so-called Bradley Effect. Named after a former Los Angeles mayor, the theory (and it is controversial) suggests that when a non-white candidate is running for office, white voters will lie to pollsters and say they support or are considering the candidate, when in reality the candidate has already lost their votes because of race. White voters, the theory concludes, are ashamed to admit prejudice.

In Fishtown, however, that model seems not to hold up.

After a year of speculation as to whether voters were prejudiced, in the last few weeks — since the campaigns zeroed in on white, blue-collar communities in Pennsylvania, really — people making casual, overtly racist statements suddenly started getting quoted in the papers.

Fishtown, as the anonymous canvasser observed, was sometimes a graphic example.

What he found even more surprising, though, was that these same people were considering voting for Obama.

For the past couple of weeks, I've been talking to people in Fishtown, and I've found much the same thing. Obama's skin color is a problem for many white voters in Philly — but with the economy in ruins, they're turning to Obama anyway. Call it the Fishtown Effect.

What this means for the general election might be pretty straightforward: Obama may win even the votes of prejudiced whites. But what, exactly, it says about race in Philadelphia — or America — is a lot harder to figure out.

In many ways, Fishtown is an old factory town — it just happens to have been swallowed by a major city. Despite recent gentrification, it remains a close-knit, old-school, blue-collar neighborhood, largely Irish Catholic, and very, very white. And it's been hit hard in the last few decades.

"A lot of suburbanites suffer from white guilt. People in Fishtown don't really suffer from white guilt," explains Kenneth Milano, a lifelong resident and avid area historian. "You go to the local welfare office and what have you, it's just as many whites as Hispanics and blacks at any other office."

While many whites fled cities in the middle of the 20th century, Fishtowners stayed put. Old-timers take pride in how deep their families' roots run. But sometimes old-school sentiment takes ugly turns.

"When I was a kid there was a firebombing in the neighborhood," Milano remembers. "Black workers were moving a white family in, but rumors were that blacks were moving in and the home was firebombed."

"We had a Ku Klux Klan in the neighborhood and everything," he says, adding that he feels times have changed. "None of that exists today."

It hasn't all gone away, though. A newcomer to Philadelphia myself, the first place I lived was on East Boston Street, a quiet block right on the border between Fishtown, East Kensington and Port Richmond. I had lived there only three days when I first heard someone use the word "nigger."

During the primaries, Fishtown went big-time for Hillary Clinton. According to an Obama volunteer who was canvassing the area at the time, racial overtones were sometimes obvious.

"We had this one woman come out. ... Before I could open my mouth she said she didn't vote for — I don't know if she said black people or the N-word," she recalls.

The volunteer whose observations were picked up by Politico — he agreed to speak on condition of anonymity, so let's call him Joe the Canvasser — had a similar experience during the general election.

"They dropped the N-bomb right off the bat," he says. "Some of the most graphic descriptions came out of the mouths of little old ladies. There was one lady ... dropping it almost casually — 'Oh, the nigger?'"

What really shocked Joe, though, was that even despite that kind of language, a lot of people seemed ambivalent, even open to voting for Obama.

Consider Patrick McGowan, a union carpenter whom I met at Murph's bar on Girard, just a block down from the Fishtown for Obama office. McGowan said he was voting for Obama.

"Everyone's voting for him," he said.

Would race be an obstacle?

"Not at all — not for anybody who's a working man paying taxes," he assured, adding: "First of all, he's not all black. And maybe if a black person gets in there to be president, it'll keep all the crybabies from crying discrimination."

McGowan, like many of the Fishtowners I spoke with, was ready to assess Obama on his merits as a candidate, even as he viewed blacks in general as a monolithic, possibly hostile group.

Another man, a retired blue-collar worker and lifetime Fishtowner who declined to give his name — let's call him Jim the Fishtowner — struck a similar tone, though he viewed a potential Obama administration as more problematic.

"It's not that he's black," Jim insisted. "But it's what the blacks will do if he wins, that's what bothers me. ... If Obama wins, the blacks are gonna say, 'We're taking charge, he's our president.' You know how they get."

Jim was convinced Obama would be a better president than McCain. But he couldn't let go of an almost tribal mind-set.

"When Wilson Goode burnt down half of Southwest Philadelphia, they re-elected him — because of color," he said.

Much of the national dialogue about race in this election has centered around whether people are or are not racist. But in Fishtown, at least, the question just isn't that simple. Maybe people are just voting out of calculated self-interest, but leaving old racial prejudices in place. Maybe race remains a factor, but a less important one than it used to be. Or maybe this is what racial healing looks like — gradual and tortured. Talking to Jim, one thing was clear: He was torn.

"I don't know," he said, sounding exasperated. "I just don't know what I'm going to do."

Plenty of Fishtowners, of course, will vote for Obama.

"It don't matter what color he is — it really don't," said an enthusiastic Theresa Little, on the 2400 block of Letterly.

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d there are reasons Fishtowners might vote for McCain that have nothing to do with race: "I'm a practicing Catholic, so there's a lot of things about me that are very conservative, like [I'm] pro-life," says Milano, the historian. "People associate whites with racism even if they're not voting for a black guy because they simply disagree with his policies."

Still, Obama's policies are much closer to Clinton's than McCain's. It's telling that so many voters in Fishtown remain undecided.

On a cold afternoon last week, three volunteers from the Obama office on East Girard headed into the heart of Fishtown to find these voters. They were armed with clipboards listing newly registered and still-undecided voters; each registered voter they spoke to, they assigned a number — "1" for those who support Obama, "2" for those who are leaning, and "3" for undecideds.

Walking door to door, volunteer Tom Bayne is received politely. Many people say that yes, they're voting Obama, but do so quietly, sometimes even glancing down the street first.

"A lot of people say, 'I don't want my neighbors to know,'" Bayne says. "I want to tell them, 'Your neighbors said that, too!'"

In Fishtown, political correctness isn't a priority. People who have long been part of a close-knit, white community seem to worry more about being seen as traitors.

"It's kind of like a reverse Bradley Effect," Bayne says.

"Fishtown is a white community, it's always been a white community," explains Nick Herzog, who lives on the 800 block of Almond Street. Listed as an undecided in the volunteers' notes, he says he still hasn't made up his mind — but that he's probably voting for Obama.

"I figure, he can't do no more worse than Bush," he says, adding, a little sheepishly, "maybe it's about time we voted for a colored person."

As a volunteer walks away from Herzog's home, he changes the number beside the voter's name from a "3" to a "2."

He's leaning.

(isaiah.thompson@citypaper.net)

Comments

What may have Nick undecided is the persistence of the Obama volunteers. I too say I'm not about to tell anyone who I am voting for but I get calls from everyone urging me to committ for Obama. Guess what? We use a secret ballott in this country. Ask me in the exit polls.
by Daniel on October 30th 2008 10:00 AM

sorry Daniel if Obama volunteers are hurting your feelings :(
by word up on October 30th 2008 5:22 PM

check out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishtown_Effect
by wiki reader on October 30th 2008 10:13 PM

Apparently some people really think there is a difference between McCain and Obama. If that's still the case with anyone, it would behoove them to review all of the following facts before voting on Tuesday:

1. BOTH voted for the Billionaire Welfare Bill (i.e. steal your money and give it to corrupt financial institutions that knowingly deceive people into scams... does that sound legal to you?)
2. BOTH support a larger, more personally-intrusive government, that will only continue the self-destructive deficit spending habit that Bush et al have formed, which literally doubled the national debt! (currently at $10,000,000,000,000... which doesn't even include outstanding and oncoming expenditures that total to more than $50,000,000,000,000 - see the documentary I.O.U.S.A.)
3. BOTH support the Patriot Act (which is a blatant misnomer, since the entire "Nazi Act" is completely unconstitutional, and therefore as UNpatriotic as you can get!)
4. BOTH support the FISA Act (which allows the Federal Mafia to further spy you... on every aspect of your life in real-time!)
5. BOTH are official members of the Council on Foreign Relations, a.k.a. CFR (a worldwide elite organization which seeks to centralize both political power and market power to craft legislation outside the checks and balances of the U.S. laws.)
6. BOTH support continued growth of the rampant military industrial complex and overgrown American imperialism around the world (even including Obama, who most people think is anti-war, when he has clearly stated with regards to Iran, "We should take no option, including military action, off the table.")
7. If you watched the last presidential debate, you should've noticed that the underlying foundation of both candidates' stances was basically the SAME.
8. NEITHER talks about the NAFTA super-highway, nor the establishment of the North American Union (a.k.a. NAU - proposed union between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada - the precursor of which is the SPP http://www.spp.gov)
9. NEITHER mentions repealing the Real I.D. Act of 2005. (precursor to a national I.D. card and database - see http://www.unrealid.com)
10. NEITHER wants a complete or swift retraction of troops from the Middle East (nor any one of the 130+ U.S. military bases around the world), which has cost the country upwards from $550,000,000,000 to date (hmm... ya think that might've had any influence in this economic downfall?)
11. NEITHER addresses the unconstitutional existence of the Federal Reserve system (a privately-owned transnational banking cartel that completely controls the U.S. economy)
12. NEITHER acknowledges the illegal, direct and unapportioned Federal Income Tax (16th Amendment was never properly ratified by the required 3/4 of the states - And if you don't believe this - do your own research, not just a Google search)
13. NEITHER supports a re-investigation into the terrorist attacks of 9/11 (which 3 of the other 4 presidential candidates DO support! - as well as Ron Paul!)
14. NEITHER supports restoration of the Constitutional Republic formerly known as the United States of America (watch online the 30-minute video called Overview of America). Instead, both of their platforms are centered around increasing the size and power of the consumerist corporation which could now be appropriately re-named the "Incorporated States of America".
15. NEITHER desires better enforcement and protection of the Bill of Rights (a.k.a. YOUR civil rights - not privileges)
16. BOTH candidates support the continued funding of the criminal terrorist state of Zionist Israel with billions of your tax dollars.
by Dwarn on October 31st 2008 9:55 AM

Yep, it's always easy to make the data work to support your opinion Dwarn. What you say is true, but of course it's 16 points out of 100s of decisions these senators have been called on to make about supporting (or not) various voyes. Yes, there is a difference between them: McCain wants to strengthen the country by supporting corporate America; Obama wants to do it by supporting individuals. To me that's a huge difference!
by Ruth on October 31st 2008 11:44 AM

Fishtown has always gotten a bad rap YES we have alot of racism look what surrounds us ? MY father raised me to like a person not a skin color . Fishtown is just like every inner city WHITE hood . NYC - BOston - etc .... go too southie it makes fishtown look like the headquaters for the NAACP ... we take care of our own thats it
by Ken on October 31st 2008 3:10 PM

I was a firefighter in Fishtown for 17 years. The people are smart, loyal and genuine. Most know what is going on in this country and care. The others won't vote.
by Jim Carr on October 31st 2008 6:14 PM

Dwarn: Ron Paul is anti-choice.

And has NO chance.
by Terry C on November 1st 2008 2:35 PM

Dwarn: Ron Paul is anti-choice.

And has NO chance.
by Terry C on November 1st 2008 2:35 PM

I would have to say one thing..what about the blacks that do not even know the issues..They will bote for O'bama just because they think he is 100% black! You are the racists my friend! Wake -up MCAIN-PALIN WILL WIN!! A True American Hero!!!
by Larry on November 3rd 2008 10:17 AM

Larry, why do you ask about the Blacks who don't know the issues. There are just as many Whites who don't know the issues. And, McCain is capitalizing by playing on those fears.

Ignorance is a dangerous thing. It doesn't matter what % of any color someone is. Vote on the issues!
by Tee on November 3rd 2008 10:50 AM

John McCain is capitalizing on the fears of people who are intimidated by something new. This is the real truth:

ACORN hired workers who were paid based on how many registrations they turned in. Some wanted to get more money, so they made them up. ACORN knew this, but by law, they have to turn in every form. John McCain understands how the voter registration process works. He knows that had nothing to do with Barack Obama. Yet, he makes an issue of it because he knows that the average voter doesn't understand the process & it would be easly to convince people that Obama was at fault.

Same w/Ayers. People serve on committees all the time. He picked out 1 person on 1 cmte in Obama's life who he could find dirt on & tried to make Obama guilty by association. Yet, he has a much closer association to Watergate insider/20-year jailbird, Liddy, to Keating & others.

The pastors he courted: Rev. Hagee-called the Catholic Church the Great Wh*re of Revelation & Rev. Parsley-calls for extermination of all Islam (not just terrorists). There's Todd Palin & Alaska 1st secessionist party & the minister at Palin's church who said that 9/11 was God's punishment of Jews. Palin's 20-yr church teaches Alaska will be the refuge for Christians in the last days.

It is easy to twist things to look intimidating when people don't understand all the facts.
by Don't Believe the Hype... on November 3rd 2008 10:53 AM

Thank you, Daniel, for saying it so well..."I pray this is the beginning of the human race and the end of tribalism in America." How did you convince your friends? I haven't been so fortunate!
by Shawna on November 3rd 2008 11:00 AM

Why are so many of these BLOGs hateful in nature. Good bad, bad or indifferent, we have two, and only two, viable candidates for president this election. Votevfor the one who you think will come closest to furthering your personal agenda, and stop attacking those who don't agree with you--its damaging to both you and our country.
As for the race issue, everyone is a racist. We're tribal creatures by nature and sort people into 2 groups: "those like us"(or our tribe); and "others". Some people are voting for Obama because he's "black" while others are voting against him for the same reason. Both groups are voting for the wrong reasons. W;'re spposed to be sapient creatures--lets act like it for a change.
by Masugu on November 3rd 2008 11:17 AM

I'm not a racist but a realist. The gov't has already uncovered a plot to kill Obama, so if something did happen to Obama, our country would be severely damaged in the ensuing riots. Hundreds, if not thousands of people will lose their lives and the financial losses would be in the billions if not trillions. Can we afford to take the risk?
by groundcontrol on November 3rd 2008 11:31 AM

Fire up the excuse machine early, because if his holiness BO loses his campaign labelling anyone who did not vote for him as racist is the easiest excuse.

He has no experience and no real plan. He is full of a lot of rhetoric and empty promises. I have no white guilt and will happily bote Republican for the first time in a long while.
by CFC on November 3rd 2008 11:42 AM

The answer to the question, "Can you be racist and vote Obama?" is clearly yes as evidenced by the fact that 94% of blacks are voting for him according to the polls.

If you talking about white racists the answer is probably no because racists are racists no matter what their skin color in spite of the fact that it is politically correct to pretend that only whites can be racists.
by W. Meyer on November 3rd 2008 6:14 PM

Democrat nominee Obama on his way to White House has already sewn the path to corruption and confirmed his character that he is indeed a phony heading to Washington to wipe out such behavior; when he agreed and committed to pay off the debt of Hillary Clinton to the tune of about 18 million dollars. The biggest buy out of one individual that Clintons are running around that they are not caught paying the bills that were incurred by Hillary on her way to nomination. Americans sure are accepting his misdemeanor. A good start for all who swindle the system to be on welfare and pile up food coupons. Honest Americans will be carrying the can.
by Kay on November 3rd 2008 9:50 PM

Just go around Africa and see what Blacks in power have done to their countries and the masses
I rest my case.
by Sunny on November 3rd 2008 9:59 PM

Why is it racist for white people not to vote for Obama because he is black but not racist for black people to vote for him because he is black?

Dontcha' love liberal hipocrisy?
by Ben Levante on November 4th 2008 12:22 AM

White vs Black when will this end? There is bad on both sides, but boy there is a lot of good people who work hard and pay taxes and raise families. We may have some cultural differences but i see a lot of common ground. Philly is a machine city that has less to do with the national DNC and more to do with our collective action as a group of Philadelphians to demand better from "some" politicians who have simply grown to fat from party rule. I am a supporter of BO but want to talk to anyone who will listen. We need more logic and less emotion in this world we need compromise and common sense. This goes for both Fishtown residents and other "black" stomping grounds of the city.
by Mizer on November 4th 2008 1:10 PM

Thinks what if you were and African American. Whose family like the Irish,Polish,Italians,Jewish, and yes Muslims came to Philadelphia to work hard in this city (lord knows my father works hard 6 days a week). Think if for decades you never saw a black candidate (not Keyes,Sharpton, or Jackson) that reflected some of your values of hard work and integrity. I hate that many African Americans are not depicted in the media as just being Americans. We are not all bitter and welfare holders. I love Philadelphia and I should be proud of my cultural family, but I love you too Fishtown and I love you too in Bridesburg and Tacony and yes the greater Northeast. Let's put the bigotry to sleep. Lets tuck it in for good.
by Mizer on November 4th 2008 1:21 PM

Yeah - conspiracy is right - just like the Black Panthers waving billy clubs at voters, like Republican poll watchers being removed from polling sites in Philly. It IS a conspiracy, the black community seems to be willing to lie, cheat and steal to get a black man in office.
by PISSED OFF on November 4th 2008 4:26 PM

Finally, someone exposes Fishtown for the bastion of white trash culture that it is....yes Lord.
by BITTER on November 6th 2008 11:27 AM



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