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Dear PETA

What do you want from Michael Vick?

Published: Aug 19, 2009

Here is a serious question for PETA, Jennifer Utley, the small but vocal army of do-gooders outside the Novacare Complex and everyone else loudly (or quietly) protesting the Philadelphia Eagles' addition of former prison inmate Michael Vick: Why? I don't mean this sarcastically. Moving forward, what do you want from the newest Eagle?

Let's back up and look at the facts. Michael Vick funded an operation that drowned, hung and beat dogs to death for the crime of not fighting other dogs well enough. Worse, Vick was not blind to these actions. According to testimony presented at his trial, Vick (at least) witnessed all of this. None of this is under dispute, and none of it is morally defensible or legally permissible.

But the story doesn't stop there. As a result of his actions, Michael Vick was punished. He lost his job and the 10-year, $130 million contract that went with it. He lost his pride, his freedom, his presence in the formative years of his newborn daughter's life, and 18 months. Instead of living as the face of our most prominent national sport, Michael Vick lived in an 8-by-10-foot cell for nearly two years in Leavenworth, Kan.

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And then, with the blessing of United States penal system, he was released.

Was he released because he paid his debt to society? No. (What does that even mean?) He was released because he lives in America, and like everyone else who has agreed to live in America, that's what happens after you serve your legally determined stay in jail. It's as much of a rule as driving on the right side of the street. In our society, dog-fighting is illegal. Rightfully so. Also in our society, once a person passes through the justice system and is deemed fit to re-enter, he has the right to earn a living at whatever profession suits his skill. Michael Vick's profession is football.

Last week I spoke with Dan Shannon, a pleasant man with the type of laid-back demeanor you probably wouldn't expect from the official spokesman of PETA, which is what Shannon is. "Look," he reasoned, "if this had happened to a regular person — if you or I had committed the offenses that Michael Vick did — I would imagine that we would have trouble finding employment." This is true, but it's totally inapplicable as a counterargument to Vick, because everything's relative. When Vick inked his previous contract, it made him the highest-paid player in NFL history. His face was on the cover of magazines and video games. Now? Vick just signed a non-guaranteed contract for roughly 88 percent less than what he had been previously making, all to be the backup to a backup (as of press time, Vick is listed third on the Eagles' QB depth chart) and see his face on protest posters. In short, it wasn't easy for Vick to find employment, considering his previous market value.

On top of all this, Vick is trying to right his wrongs. He's working side by side with the Humane Society and, PR gimmick or not, kids are hearing the message that he fucked up. It speaks volumes that both former Indianapolis head coach Tony Dungy, who is as famous for his faith as he is his Super Bowl rings, and Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, who owns a rescued dog of his own, have put themselves on the line for a man they believe has changed.

Vick joined the Eagles not because the team's system fit his skill set (it doesn't) or because there was an obvious opportunity for playing time (there isn't), but rather because the stability of the organization was important to a man trying to piece together a once-promising career. When he was introduced as the newest member of the Eagles, he spent the entire press conference apologizing. You may doubt the sincerity of his remorse — as he freely admits, only his actions going forward can prove or disprove that — but certainly not how demoralizing the experience has to have been. Here is a man, two years ago revered as the single greatest athlete of his generation, answering question after question after question about things he'd done wrong, with only two mixed in regarding his potential impact on the field. This context can't help but humble him.

Look, our penal system may not always achieve its end goal, but its end goal is important: Here in America we don't lock up criminals as an act of vengeance, we do so in an attempt at reformation. The end goal isn't to make prisoners hurt, it's to make them not criminals, and then release them so they can go back to driving on the right side of the road. What protesters are asking for is not only overly harsh — when did PETA become harsher toward criminals than the justice system? it's also fundamentally undemocratic.

So now, here, we're asking them publicly: What do you want out of Vick? Do you want him never to fight dogs again? Do you want him to publicly repudiatehis previous behavior and work with the Humane Society to inform kids about the problems with such behavior? Or do you want blood? You can't have both.

E. James Beale wants blood. E-mail him at e.james.beale@citypaper.net.

Comments

the one thing I would disagree with that once someone serves their time they are allowed to work in any profession they want. That is clearly not true depending on the crime. Last time I checked a teacher that was convicted of being a petofile they are never allowed to teach or work with children again. A police officer convicted of a felony is no longer able to be a police officer again to name a couple of examples. It is typical of our culture of celebrity that athletes and other entertainers get to play by different rules. Don't get me wrong I am for forgiveness and second chances but there are still sometimes permanent consequences for our actions though forgiven.
by Jack on August 20th 2009 12:18 PM

Do the dogs Michael Vick tortured and killed get a second chance? I think not. What was done to them cannot be undone. There is a huge difference between legal and moral law. Michael Vick may have served his time under the law however shouldn't society be disgusted by this man's actions enough to say he does not deserve to be on a national league team? Our atheletes serve as role models for the kids who watch them play. What kind of role model is Michael Vick? What kind of moral compass do the owners of the Eagles following? Michael Vick should not be allowed back in the NFL. He does deserve a second chance in society but not in the NFL with a million dollar contract and celebity. What he did, with his own hands is reprehensable and should not be forgotten or swept away with a touchdown. Being a football player in the NFL should not just mean you can score but it should mean you are the best of the best. Michael Vick is the lowest of the low.
by Jocelyn on August 20th 2009 12:56 PM

When I was a kid (the 60's) the fishermen off the rock piles in Cape May Point would do horrible things to "trash fish". I wont go into details, but trust me horrible.

Now I know a fish is not your dog, but they never gave it a 2nd thought. Their whole approach to all animals but pets was barbaric. We are in a slow ascent from that - and in pockets (like most of our food industry) that ascent has not even dawned yet.

My take is that M Vick grew up in one of those pockets and then isolated himself from the kind of influences that might have straightened him out (take Ike Reese as a possible example. Older players with their values in place.)

Not to excuse it - jail time was the way to go. Some messages just have to be delivered hard.

But now M. Vick is about to return to a job that really is outside the public trust (not a teacher, not a cop) - and his "celebrity" I would expect must be kinda hard for a still-young man to deal with. He IS reviled and has to walk his way through that gauntlet.

I hope he can and I hope he does some good with his life going forward. I would feel the same if he was an Eagle or a Cowboy.

All of us:

Teach the kids to treat dogs (and all other animals) right

Teach the kids that Mike Vick is a gifted athlete and that that does NOT make him a role model

Teach the kids to face down evil and not get too self-righteous in the process

The Eagles let my sports role model go - B Dawk

Looking forward to December 27
by Philly Max on August 20th 2009 2:16 PM

Last I checked, PETA, the SPCA, and all other animal rights groups were charged with the mission of stopping animal cruelty, not with punishing and castigating a human being. I'm astounded by the hypocrisy in these groups spending so much time spewing venom at Vick, while ignoring the fact that he is their BEST ally in actually stopping dogfighting (which is very prevalent in Philly).

Our local PETA and the PSPCA have thus far refused to work with Vick, leaving the Humane Society as his only partner. There is no way that the animal rights groups -- comprising largely white, affluent people -- are going to reach the (largely black, not-so-affluent) kids who are fighting dogs. Mike Vick, on the other hand, could actually help get these groups' message out in a way they have thus far been unable to.

Look, what he did was disgusting -- although I do think the moral outrage is kind of a joke, given that we flock to UFC fights (isn't that just human dogfighting?), how we treat pigs in slaughtering them, and that we can legally hunt all kinds of animals -- but his actions can't be undone at this point. So why not enlist him to help to prevent more dogfighting? Is that not the goal of PETA and the SPCA?

And as for the "well at least he shouldn't be allowed to play in the NFL" argument, there is no committee in our country that decides who gets to do what profession. If an NFL team is willing to hire him, he can play in the NFL. If no one hires him, he finds another line of work. No committee got together and decreed that Martha Stewart had to find a new living. Instead, Wal-Mart kept selling her stuff and NBC gave her a tv show. That's their right, just as it's the Eagles' right to give him a job.
by PJ on August 20th 2009 3:13 PM

Oh cry me a river. What a joke. Stop whining over a guy that is going to continue to make millions of dollars doing what he loves to do - play a GAME. The guy was a punk long before the dog fighting was discovered. He even tested positive for drugs while out on bail. Do your homework.
You never actually say what “protesters” are asking for. So what is it? No one is saying that he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. It's what he does with his 2nd chance that matters. I’ve been waiting to hear something about him working with an organization that helps animals. So if you claim that he is “working side by side with the Humane Society,” please do tell me where I can read that. Why do you think PETA wants more than that? I think what most of us (who are disgusted by this) want is for a person to be truly remorseful and deserving of the 2nd chance. If the guy gets to make tons of money sitting around on a bench, or even running around on a grassy field, while still being a loser off the field, why should we commend the Eagles for enabling that? We should require better of our Philadelphia teams, as these guys are often role models. So to those of you who are claiming that “the Eagles hired him. No one gets to decide what profession you get to be in when you are released from prison” – that is exactly the point. The Eagles don’t give a rat’s ass how the other players feel, nor how their fans feel. What they care about is money, so boycotting the games would hit them where it hurts. If they really cared about 2nd chances, I can think of at least two other people that should be back on their payroll. Two people without a violent history like Michael Vick.
by Tara on August 21st 2009 12:22 PM

Money. It's only about money - the money that Vick will make, the money that the Eagles (and by extention Philly) will make. Will the Eagles and Vick share their millions on animal rescue work both here and where Vick tortured his dogs? No word on that yet, folks, Gee, I wonder why? BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Never. Vick commanded a $130-million contract when he was involved in dog fighting. He clearly didn't need the money. So why did he do it? Do the math.
by Carlye on August 22nd 2009 1:59 PM

James well said! I couldn't agree with you more!
by Annette on August 24th 2009 11:20 AM

When I was young, we had a neighbor who loved cats. She had so many that she often lost track of them. A friend of mine got hold of one of the neighbor's newborn kittens and tortured the kitten until there was no more life left in the kitten's body. At the time, my friend was 13 and he had to spend a few months in a boys home to try and rehabilitate himself so this doesn't turn into a lifelong career (killing) for him. Months later when my friend was released, some still criticized him as an animal killer and many old friends turned their back on him. After 26 years, we are still very good friends. Like anyone else, I believe Vick deserves to be forgiven. In time, his actions will improve and show us just how wrong he felt for what he has done. I am an animal lover, Every month, I donate money to the animal shelter in my neighborhood. The moral of my story goes above and beyond what anyone may feel what is right or wrong, but if Vick wasn't worth as much money as he was when this first came to light, no one would be sitting here even thinking about him. They would say, "Vick who?" All I have to say is, Vick, if given the chance, do your thing. Who are we to cast stones and not forgive? God has forgiven many of us for thing much worse.
by Cyn on August 24th 2009 1:02 PM

I agree completely home boy. He served his time, he's legally done with his punishment. Leave the man alone!
by Trip Hayes on August 24th 2009 1:09 PM

So Michael Vicks raced dogs, he got caught and did what the system asked of him. What do all these animal overs want? There are so many people, you know humans? dying out there and need help and these protestors are acting as if animals withour souls are more important. I think they want to see Vicks homeless and mentally deranged then they would be satisfied. I love animals, I hit any animal and I feel bad for days, but would I put someone's life above theirs? No way. Why does it seem that the most important issues are ignored and the mistakes are used as the defining moment for some individuals? Get a grip people and be forgiving! Animals regardless of how much we love them should never become more important than people.
by Marcia Lewis on August 26th 2009 12:55 PM

I think the most disturbing thing is that Vick invested in this dog fighting business and didn't do it for the moeny (he had plenty) he did it for the thrill. So if he really wants to play football let him, but take his salary (besides a reasonable amount for his living expenses) and he should donate it to save animals. Or take his salary and spend it on educating ignorant kids in the city about how wrong it is to fight dogs.
by dawnyd72 on August 31st 2009 4:14 PM

It is NOT true that once you serve your time you are allowed to persue a career in whatever field suits you best. Felons are barred from working in many jobs, especially ones involving children and other big responsibilities. Nobody has a right to play in the NFL. That is a priviledge you earn. Seeing as how the NFL depends on its fans for financial support, it's not wise to hire someone the fans despise, and rightfully so. He's a horrible person and the fans care about that. Therefore, no, he does not necessarily have the right to be in the NFL just because he served his sentence.
by Ginny on September 2nd 2009 12:13 PM

Oh and Marcia Lewis is an idiot. Michael Vick did not get arrested for "racing dogs". He operated a dog fighting ring where dogs were forced to fight, often to the death. If they didn't fight well enough they were killed in horrible ways. So yes, in this case the animals deserve more consideration than the human. The human forfeited any consideration due to him when he heinously abused these sentient, emotional beings. Also, when humans are abused they can often at least tell someone they need help. How can an animal seek help? If you can't see how wrong you are, then there's no point in continuing to try and convince you. You're just hopeless. And if you're thinking I'm some kind of sociopath because I care more about an animal than a fellow human being, you are probably right about that. Humans have given me plenty of reasons time and time again to not trust or even like them. They know the diffence between right and wrong and yet constantly choose to do selfish, brutal, cruel, and overall WRONG things at every turn. If there weren't so many animals trapped in cages and homes in the world, I would release a virus that kills only humans and get rid of all of them, including myself. We're a study in evolutionary failure. We're self destructive and just plain old destructive to boot. We destroy EVERYTHING we touch. Thank God we've left 95% of the ocean unexplored... for now. And we're looking for new planets to infest and ruin. So yes, I'm a sociopath who has no feelings for human beings. But can you really blame me?
by Ginny on September 2nd 2009 12:24 PM

PETA sure doesn't need more animals.they had a dumpster full of dead ones in back of their HQ building in Norfolk.So far noone has explained that.
by mike on September 6th 2009 12:24 PM

The problem is that too many people conflate Vick's case with all the underprivileged people who, upon serving their time, are not giving much of a second chance. The difference here, as several people astutely pointed out, is that there is a big difference between turning Vick away from a million dollar deal and refusing him a salaried position in any type of workforce. What non-NFL skills sets does he possess? While it would be deplorable if he couldn't put them to use while obtaining his 2nd chance, the NFL, a private company with it's own set of standards,only diminishes it's integrity by continuing to rehire such individuals. Fight for the guy who can't make minimum wage after serving 5-17. Not this asshole.
by Stevie G on September 6th 2009 4:06 PM

Is et possible to arrange a Stevie G vs petbull fight?
by Yoo on September 7th 2009 1:16 AM

I'm all about animal liberation, but PETA's fucked up for a lot of reason's. In this instance, it's using the state as a coercive force. The call to 'serve and protect' is no excuse for becoming, aiding, or cooperating with officers or government agents. There are other ways to end oppression, namely literally stopping the dogfights and getting the dogs freed, which could be done fairly easily and preferably without state intervention. That said, just because because the "justice" systems says he's served his time doesn't automatically mean everything's peachy keen. It takes utter contempt for the law and actual moral principals to truly be just. Finally and most importantly, humans are not inherently "better" than any other being, be it a dog, an ant, or a speck of dust. Shake yourselves of hubris.
by xVEGANx on September 11th 2009 5:32 PM

In a city like Philly I think that PETA and the SPCA would be better fighting the local dogfighting problem than bitching about Vick. Wake up and smell the dog blood, you are living in a city with one of the highest rates of dog fighting in America. And Michael Vick did not do his dirt here. I understand that it seems bad to you all that he is playing here but take a look at his punishment compared to Philadelphians convicted of the same crimes. They get a slap on the wrist and usually return to the same brutal business. I doubt that Vick will ever return to this illegal world, they threw the book at him. My point is that even though he is still playing football, he did a good amount of time and his salary cut is comparable to being a vice president and then getting sent back to the mail room.
by Rory on September 23rd 2009 12:47 PM

The whole Vick thing agitates me. He has no morals, mercy, or concious. I don't believe that he is sorry or remorseful. I think that he knows what needs to be said to make people happy and get off his back and he'll say it. I have a hard time reading some of these posts that say get over it and move on in other words. I don't think this would be the response if this had a happened to a person. People would be outraged and horrified but the reactions change when it's an animal? Why is this? What makes an animal less important than a human and what kind of standard is that? Secondly, Vic wanting to return to football is expected. The question is why would we want him to? I would never be able to watch him play without thinking about what he had done and I wouldn't even if I could because I don't want to suppport him in any way.I don't see how others would be comfortable with this. For the posts on here that states that animals should not come before people is agitating. Why is this the reaction? What makes people so much more important than animals? And "animals have no souls", first reaction is WOW. There is no proof they don't just like there isn't for people. Would you like to be told you have no soul? To automatically be put down and lowered based upon your species only?
by Jay on October 30th 2009 12:38 AM

I don't think Jay has a "concious" either.
by Dog Meat isn't murder on October 30th 2009 12:35 PM



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